Jurgen ...For five of eight seasons he won S F A
so talk of him as a wonder manager is pure BULLSH.T...S A F would have seen him off ..
Started: 29th Jan 2024 at 18:25
Never retained a trophy, won the two domestic cups on penalties after bore draws, and won a league title which has to be taken on trust because no one was there to see it
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7-0
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that,s just 1 game peter . 20 league titles .
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Why are the Manc fans having a go at a manager who the club was falling over themselves to sign, but he had the good sense to turn them down? A touch of bitterness methinks.
Replied: 30th Jan 2024 at 09:45
Last edited by ahcawntspeyk: 30th Jan 2024 at 09:53:06
In nine years Klopp won:
1 X Champions League.
1 X Premier League.
1 X F.A. Cup.
Pep managed that in two weeks.
He is a very good manager but finishing 8th, 4th, 4th, 2nd,1st, 3rd, 2nd. 5th........I woudn't call him a great manager, worthy of the accolades he has been receiving over the last week.
No bitterness here ahcawntspeyk.
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Last edited by Don G.B: 30th Jan 2024 at 11:17:15
Sir Alex managed it in 10 days
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But Klopp didnt spend half of the money City spent Don and also didn't cheat.
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Last edited by peter g: 30th Jan 2024 at 11:54:14
speyk.
No bitterness at all here .
Just reality...
Replied: 30th Jan 2024 at 12:41
"But Klopp didnt spend half of the money City spent Don and also didn't cheat."
He should have managed a top club then instead of going to an unambitious club who wouldn't spend to succeed.
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Last edited by Don G.B: 30th Jan 2024 at 14:29:25
yes at least klopp did,nt cheat his way to the things he,s won .
Replied: 30th Jan 2024 at 14:37
Neither did Pep.
Of course Liverpool are squeaky clean.....not
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-man-city-spygate-fa-17708982
Replied: 30th Jan 2024 at 15:04
Whattaboutary of the highest order
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grimshaw
Here's some reality for all you Mancs who keep banging on about Ferguson. He was lucky enough to be the manager of a team who won league titles simply because the rest of the teams in the league where bang average.. Or worse!
Replied: 30th Jan 2024 at 16:19
That's the "reality" I have been banging on about for decades ever since Liverpool were winning European Cups in the 70s meeting teams like the "mighty" Club Brugge in the finals
Replied: 30th Jan 2024 at 17:46
Arsenal never lost a game all season in the fergy era,
But they were only average,
Replied: 30th Jan 2024 at 18:03
So what? Arsenal had one great season what did they do apart from that?
United's highest ever points total when they won the title was 92 they would struggle to get a look in with that tally these days.
Replied: 30th Jan 2024 at 18:06
Last edited by ahcawntspeyk: 30th Jan 2024 at 18:08:37
From 1989 to 2005 arsenal won 5 league titles and 5 fa cups,
Not bad for an average team.
Replied: 30th Jan 2024 at 18:20
chatty
They also beat Borussia Munchengladbach in the 70s who were a useful side, but don't mention them eh?
They also beat the absolutely pathetic Real Madrid and crap Roma in the eighties. But better not mention them as well eh?
Replied: 30th Jan 2024 at 18:22
Tiger cat
United won a title with 84 points from 42 games so how hard was that league that season then? They also won other titles with less than 90 points which would be nowhere near good enough today.
And Arsenal won a league title with 76 points.... Again nowhere near good enough today
Replied: 30th Jan 2024 at 18:30
Accs, that could be because most teams were of a decent standard and took points off each other,
Not like last few years.
Replied: 30th Jan 2024 at 18:37
The bitterness from speyk is palpable
Understandable i suppose given we were winning the P L on a regular basis under the brilliant S A F and given it took the dippers 30 years .
Replied: 30th Jan 2024 at 19:19
ahcawntspeyk.
"gladbach have reached one European Cup final in their history so have Roma, hardly European power houses then, and that tells you exactly the strength of European football in the late 70s early 80s when winning the English League title virtually guaranteed a team a place in at least the semi finals.
The fact Nottingham Forest have won twice as many European Cups than league titles puts it into perspective.
Before Liverpool met Brugge in the 78 final they played 6 games (that's games not ties) in the competition and lost two of those.
By far the weakest period in European Cup football history
You are correct about one thing though Madrid were absolutely pathetic then.
Replied: 30th Jan 2024 at 19:35
Last edited by chatty: 30th Jan 2024 at 19:41:50
yes he did & the whole set up was based on cheating & putting money into city by the back door in the guise of sponsership money . maybe walker has just assumed that it,s ok to cheat just like the rest of the city corrupt lot.
Replied: 30th Jan 2024 at 23:44
You are just bitter whups, clinging on to, and believing the nonsense the red top comics feed you, in order to sooth your furrowed brow.
Look to your own club for their failings instead of blaming THE WORLD CHAMPIONS for trafford's own inadequacies.
THE WORLD CHAMPIONS are simply a business run properly, which is why trafford have poached a top quality executive in an effort to replicate at trafford the successful template that is, THE WORLD CHAMPIONS.
BTW, are you bothering to travel all the way to trafford this weekend for the match?.............no, didn't think so.
Replied: 31st Jan 2024 at 11:02
Last edited by Don G.B: 31st Jan 2024 at 11:03:27
rubbish 0yrs you were found guilty by fifa & got a 10 million quid fine & only for nobbling the jury you,d have had a 2 yr ban as well . you got away with it in europe because of non complience with them & getting it timed out as their limit was 5yrs . you wont be so lucky here as there,s no time limit here . it,s coming & all you,ve won since 2009 will be expunged for cheating . no doubt you wont watch the evidence on you tube "britian,s biggest football scandal" will you as the evidence is clear & will be passed on to our investigators . it,s coming fast & loud 0yrs .
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Spot on whups.
I have said on more than one occasion that the day will come when the fixture list will read Salford city v the dirties in div two or better still Whitby town v the dirties in the northern prem.
Least oyears will be able to have his dinner at the legendary town fish and chip shop.
Replied: 31st Jan 2024 at 12:12
You keep repeating this nonsense whups, you haven't a clue what you are talking about.
You are like all the other bar room "know nowts", you read what you see on partisan social media sites along with the dumb down red top comics and assume that is correct. You mix it up with your own fantasies and, Hey presto, you post nonsense.
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Last edited by Don G.B: 31st Jan 2024 at 12:43:56
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It sounds like you're not one of those "know nowts" o years so perhaps you can explain why Mancini was getting two lots of wages one into a foreign bank account that wasn't declared?
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Last edited by chatty: 31st Jan 2024 at 13:00:34
that,s right chatty & he was getting half of his wages thru the back door in sponsership money mansoor keeps putting in under different companies he owns . no wonder 0yrs doesnt want to see the real truth .
Replied: 31st Jan 2024 at 15:42
Is shatty going tomorrow neet i'l bet my last bike he's going nowhere near wolverhampton I've been to Trafford more time than the 4 bitters put together
Replied: 31st Jan 2024 at 19:30
Anyway must dash watching the CHAMPIONS
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Mancini was paid a salary of £1.45 million at City. He was paid an annual consultancy fee of £1.75 million by the Al Jazira football club which was paid into his Italian bank account.
Replied: 31st Jan 2024 at 20:14
Good work if you can get it
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Sure is, some folk wont get out of bed and go look for it,
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watch the video on you tube gaffer then come back on here with your opinion on it .
Replied: 1st Feb 2024 at 00:06
Trenchfoot how many times has bacon face beat PEP? Another question you or softlad won't answer
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you wont answer being a wife beater supporter will you .
Replied: 1st Feb 2024 at 01:09
Perhaps the reason why United are not having the same success they had they had in the days of Busby, Docherty and Ferguson is because they no longer are the most successful and attractive club now that that many of the other big clubs now have new bigger multi millionairne owners and can attract more of the better well known players and even the more successful managers in world football.
Football is now all about mega bucks contracts in the eyes of both players and managers and not just being at a famous club like in the past!
Replied: 1st Feb 2024 at 07:42
Last edited by Owd Codger: 1st Feb 2024 at 07:57:14
Another thread by the poster aiming to stir up responses from United fans on here before then bemoaning the fact that the sportsboard is "full of Man Utd talk" and him not being "able to wait for the Rugby season to start for some sensible chat"
Replied: 1st Feb 2024 at 08:30
Double bubble.
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Last edited by chatty: 1st Feb 2024 at 08:31:24
Perhaps some of the better known players you speak of dodger are the ones now benefitting from your coaching skills .
One name dodger .
Just one name .
Replied: 1st Feb 2024 at 14:45
Trenchfoot shatty there's no getting away from klopp winning more in 6 years than bacon face won in his first 6 years!! You can shout scream skrike and Gnash your teeth as much as you want
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38 trophies beat that .
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Not going again workshy??? Broady knew you were a plastic who never goes
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Last edited by eggbeater: 1st Feb 2024 at 15:37:03
so do you .
Replied: 1st Feb 2024 at 15:54